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Post Fri Jul 28, 2006 4:23 pm
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Post Fri Jul 28, 2006 4:23 pm
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I think the c't magazine in Germany once had a kit to build an ISA or PCI card to program stuff. But frankly, I'd look into a seperate bulk eraser and an external eprom programming unit. I think they are around in the second-hand area.
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Post Fri Jul 28, 2006 5:52 pm
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there is no way to program a cmos eprom on a pci card either. the only exception: the pci card is a special multi-purpose-programming card (very very expensive and for hardware developers only).
look here. if you're skilled you can build your own.

the ct' flasher supports (like the name already suggests) writing to flash eproms only. uniflash supports the ct'flasher just in case someone wants to know how to avoid the original ct'flasher software.

Post Sat Jul 29, 2006 7:50 am
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hi,

somewhat newbie, is eprom and flash rom, are the same?
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Post Sat Jul 29, 2006 11:37 am
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like i stated in my previous post in this topic there is a difference between eprom, eeprom and flash-eeprom.

eeprom and flash-eeprom are almost identical. they just differ in programming speed as they use different techniques of writing the data into the chip. both can be electrically erased.

eprom need uv-light to be erased, use different programming algorithms and are way slower in programming speed.

reading them all is somewhat the same: set address, enable output, get data from output, disable output, set address, enable output, get data from output, disable output, ...
so if you are smart, you can program a (flash-)eeprom in your mainboard and build an adaptor to your nic bootrom socket (which are build to be fitted with eproms).

Post Sat Jul 29, 2006 1:39 pm
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here's my case:

i'm planning to put PXE boot rom chips on our 60 pcs of LAN cards. all identical. the model is Acer ALN-325 using realtek driver... i'm doing a search in the internet on how to make those hehe....
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Post Sat Jul 29, 2006 4:07 pm
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Buy an ofiicial one and copy the contents to 59 others? With a regular programmer?
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Post Sat Jul 29, 2006 5:11 pm
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http://www.etherboot.org/

this should help you for a start. if those nics are eprom equipable you should buy a programmer (maybe a readymade version), an uv-eraser and lots of eproms ;)

there are cards available (most intel equipped cards) which already have an flash eeprom chip onboard (yes, eeprom..reprogrammable) to support etherboot. so with those cards you won't have to mess around with an eprom burner. but be aware that those cards are more expensive than the $1 budget cards you can buy everywhere.

Post Sat Jul 29, 2006 11:36 pm
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even $5 cards seem to have PXE support these days, how they do that is beyond me...
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Post Sun Jul 30, 2006 4:10 am
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ok thanks will look into it...\

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Post Sun Jul 30, 2006 12:13 pm
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even the budget cards have PXE support but they need an additional (e)eprom..some (more expensive) cards already have an eeprom soldered on the nic. there were lots of dell/compaq/hp nics on a huge internet auction platform lately. they were equipped with intel SB82558B (10/100Mbit) and had a 512kbit eeprom soldered on the board. they were a real bargain.

Post Sun Jul 30, 2006 3:49 pm
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edited: i found some quick tutorials...

anyway, 28 pin DIP is really a headache. too bad our NIC are OEMs, all are 28 pin DIP :( i was not successful in flashing it even using the rtflash of realtek
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Post Sun Jul 30, 2006 5:32 pm
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references? limited to what?

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