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Denniss
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 3:34 am     Post subject: Reply with quote

http://users.erols.com/chare/elec_pentium.htm

The 3.3V Version is rated at 9.75A, the 7.5A of the 200 are for split-voltage 2.9/3.3V.

I'd stick with 200 MHz to be on the safe side, at max I'd use 75x3 (if the board supports 75 and is stable)
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 4:15 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to keep you all updated on the BIOS issue, Space Marine is now running the REV:F10 BIOS. This is the latest official BIOS I could find for the Lucky Star P54CE Ver.F board and it is a close match with the original REV:F03 BIOS he send me.
This 02/14/97 REV:F10 BIOS has full support for the 3.2V/ 3.3V K6, but not for the later 2.2V K6 and K6-2 models.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 4:32 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

hey Jan, nice to see you posting here :) it's been a while..

support for the later 2.2v K6/K6-2 would require split voltage on the board. since it doesn't support split voltage out of the box and doesn't even feature a vrm slot there's no use in supporting those processors on a board like this anyway.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 1:11 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

<- concurs with cp.

Hi Jan! Very Happy
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Space Marine
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 6:02 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

My motherboard is dead!

I installed correctly the k6, it started but no POST done.
Then i returned to my p133 but no post too.

Maybe that mainboard was completely incompatible with k6.

Any idea or i have to launch it out of window? Sad
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 8:37 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

you have reset the jumpers properly? You did a cmos clear?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 4:10 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

while running the AMD K6 you did install a large fan to cool the cpua AND the power-transistor, didn't you?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 5:05 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

Today happened a strange thing:

i tryed another time to start the mb with 133 and it starts, and now it is running.

Onestly i don't know what happened, but i didn't changed nothing from when i reinstalled it to today.

However a moderate fan was installed, not directly on cpu and VRM where i use the old ones, but at about 5 centimetres.

I don't know if is a good idea to risk again on mounting the k6.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 5:43 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

edwin wrote:
you have reset the jumpers properly? You did a cmos clear?


Jumpers was correct but i didnt clear the cmos.

Mb doesnt have an erasing jumper, for clearing cmos have i only to remove cmos battery?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 6:36 am     Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah and disconnect from mains power to be sure.

the VRM may have indeed overheated, it might be a good idea to put a large heatfinger on the power transistor on that and have a larger fan blow over it...
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 11:06 am     Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't thing that it gone overheated, i touched it just after the last trying (when it doesnt post) and was cold, like metal at ambient temperature.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 3:09 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm posting from the k6! It's up and running since 3 hours! Very Happy

The problem probably was that i hadn't cleared cmos.
I have installed old cpu fan on vrm and used an old gf2mx fan as cpu fan.

The case is opened: i can touch cpu heatsink and is still cold Smile

Vrm airflow seems a bit hotter then cpu airflow, but the difference is barely noticable, and in general is very little bit hotter then ambient temperature.

I'm thinking that probably it will not suffer much on setting cpu at 233 (original k6 speed) instead of 200.



However i have another question:
win95 recognize cpu as a general pentium, and not a k6 mmx (bios recognization is ok).
Does it influence performances much? Does any k6 mmx patch for win95a exist?
I'm not noticing big performance improvements from old p133.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 7:55 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

Use Everest or Sandra to check for K6 featrures been enable or not. Especially this should be MMX and Write Allocation.

It is way faster than your old CPU not only because of MHz but also 'cause of quadrupled L1-Cache. (2x8KiB on P1-133, 2x32 on K6)
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 8:53 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

If you use Everest, please post a dump of the CPU MSR's.

To do this, right-click on the bottom bar, select CPU Debug, then K6 MSR Dump.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 11:41 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm using everest


- MSR dump is empty

- this is cpuid+msr dump

Quote:

------[ Logical CPU #0 ]------

allcpu: Valid

CPUID 00000000: 00000001-68747541-444D4163-69746E65
CPUID 00000001: 00000562-00000000-00000000-008001BF
CPUID 80000000: 80000005-00000000-00000000-00000000
CPUID 80000001: 00000662-00000000-00000000-008005BF
CPUID 80000002: 2D444D41-6D74364B-202F7720-746C756D
CPUID 80000003: 64656D69-65206169-6E657478-6E6F6973
CPUID 80000004: 00000073-00000000-00000000-00000000
CPUID 80000005: 00000000-02800140-20020220-20020220

------[ MSR Registers ]------


PerformanceFrequency = 1193180




- The cpu is recognized as K6 at 200mhz (66x3, is right) and both mmx and L1 cache are ok

- everest seems unable to say if write allocation is active or not. Havent find that option written


BUT, there is a problem:

- L2 cache is not recognized

I have 256k of pipelined burst cache soldered onto motherboard.
But it has a 430VX and im using 128mb of ram.
VX support only 64 mb of ram for caching, so maybe is ram ammount the problem.


In your opinion, is better having 128mb of ram without L2 cache or 64mb using 256k (plus an eventual coast module) of L2?
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