Hello lads, i'm not here to ask for advice as iv'e fixed my problem, but
thought i'd come here to share a problem that's taken me the best part
of a week to solve...
I obtained a box of dead motherboards off a friend in the business who
assembles / upgrades / sells computers new & used, I get the dead
boards simply for the chips..
I never pull the chip though without 1st flashing it with the latest
update of bios as iv'e got some pretty good MoBo's that were dead
simply because of a bios update gone bad...
Tuesday night I got bored with work & decided to identify a socket 462
board I had here that had no markings other than Rev 3.0 on it,, in
pulling the chip & extracting the bios with my programmer revealed
it was a PC-Chips M810LR so I obtained the latest bios, flashed it &
found it to fire up OK, which I thought beauty, I happen to have a spare
athlon XP 1800+ & an ati 9250se card so I put it together in a case & attempted to install XP...
Well 5 days later iv'e finally got it to install without file copy errors..
I have XP non service pack + with Sp1 + MCE2005 all genuine CD's..
all 3 gave exactly the same file copy errors during attempting to install
the OS, diactfrm.dll / msvcrt.dll / dxdiagn.dll / ss3dfo.scr + sspipes.scr...
Now , I thought how could 3 genuine iso's all error exactly the same on
the file copy, who knows..
So I changed the memory, got the same error, changed the hard drive
& still the same error, took the ati card out & used the onboard agp yet
still the same error, tried all the different bios versions available yet still
the same error, Took the athlon XP 1800 out & tried the Duron 800 from
my sons machine & XP is now installed no problems, This athlon I bought
brand new, used it for 6 months then upgraded to a 2400+ on my main
machine, the 1800+ never gave me greif at all, & yes it's a thoroughbred
cpu as the PC-Chips sight says the board can supposedly support,,
yeah right..
I attempted to install 2000 on it & got 1 file copy error that stopped
directX from running dxdiag or updating to any version at all...
I installed 98se on it without any probs whatsoever with the 1800+...
Another thing too is when I used a bios later than 020515s.rom, I would
end up with a ghost floppy on the address that B drive would normally
run on { 01h } from memory, that was supposedly 2.1mb in size when
running the killdisk program to erase the partition & files on C: drive..
If I attempted to access this ghost B: drive the system would lock up..
However if I used bios dated/revision 020515s.rom or earlier, the ghost
drive didn't appear at all...
So even though the bios updates from PC-Chips states the board
supports athlon XP cpus on revision 3.0, I wouldn't bother trying...
Also, for the sake of trying, I pulled my main system apart to give it
a cleanup of the dust accumulated & pulled the 2400+ from it & tryed it
on the PC-Chips board & still errored the same whilst attempting to install
XP Pro.
I downloaded the manual + checked the picture of the board on the
PC-Chips sight & found it to match how this board looks so it's definately
either an M810L/LR , not a D, whose bios wouldn't even fire the board up
when flashed to a chip.
I couldn't believe it when XP installed perfect, without file copy errors
when using the duron, I came close to trashing this one I tell you.
Looks like my daughter gets a system upgrade after all...
PC-Chips Bios / CPU problems
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Thanks for sharing this bid of info, saves a lot of pulled hairs and can serve as yet another example of typical PC Chips...
edwin/evasive
Do not assume anything
System error, strike any user to continue...
Do not assume anything
System error, strike any user to continue...
Does that page open for anyone else.??Denniss wrote:http://radel.inet.net.nz/m810lmr.html
All I get is page loading but never seems to load no matter how
many times I try or refresh..
What was it about.
I looked at the 810lmr board on the PC-Chips sight & saw it
looked similar to this board, except it runs a dip, not plcc
chip, although seeing it runs the same chipset, if it runs the
same i/o too then I might try the bios for that & see if it
runs the athlon without errors... just for the sake of trying..
I placed this 1800+ back in the board now that XP is installed,
started into safe mode, it then said I need to reboot to allow
the newly installed device to work, so I restarted & now it's
running the 1800+ no problems, we'll see how long it takes
before a problem shows,, if at all...
EDIT # 1:
I tell you what, this file copy error discovery has changed the way i'll
address prblems like this in the future...
Whilst the athlon XP 1800+ was installed, I attempted to install office
2003, the installation got to roughly 70% & gave an error about being
unable to extract a particular cab file, pressing retry did nothing ,,
swapping the CD to my backed up one did the same, so I clicked cancel,
in which the install rolled back & a sorry / apology notice showed...
I placed the Duron 800 back in the system & Office 2003 installed
perfect, 1st go...
Now iv'e had similar problems whilst attempting to install office 2003 from
this same CD onto a relative's computer { celeron 533 system }MS6161
board running XP-Pro, & again it errored, but earlier on in the
installation, about being unable to copy a tiff file, which I expected to
happen this time around, I couldn't beleive it when it got as far as it did
at one stage, then the error popped up towards 70-75%.....
So now I have to ask, is it that every time I get a file copy error from
brand new CD's , which I know have worked perfect on one system, do
I blame the cpu...
I know little about how they work, but is it some kind of instruction being
read/accessed wrong causing the file copy error...
I try'ed twice to install office 2003 with the 1800+ cpu installed & twice
got the same error yet it installed 1st go with the Duron 800...
A learning curve indeed for me,, & perhaps for others to consider in the
future...
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works fine for me...Denniss wrote:http://radel.inet.net.nz/m810lmr.html
edwin/evasive
Do not assume anything
System error, strike any user to continue...
Do not assume anything
System error, strike any user to continue...
Does for me too now,edwin wrote:works fine for me...Denniss wrote:http://radel.inet.net.nz/m810lmr.html
I tried the K7SEM ver 3.0 bios too, all revisions, & still got the file copy
error during the install of XP using both fail safe & optimum bios settings.
I considered the power supply too as listed on that page although I
would have thought a new P4 400watt unit should have been good
enough for this one..
I noticed the version 3.0 seems to be the revision that has the most
questionable options regading cpu & vga capabilities..
NP, I certainly learned from this one as we all do from problems..edwin wrote:Thanks for sharing this bid of info, saves a lot of pulled hairs and can serve as yet another example of typical PC Chips...
Hey Denniss, is this webpage on the M810 motherboard, yours...Denniss wrote:http://radel.inet.net.nz/m810lmr.html
I was just reading through it & was led to another page here
that speaks of the various types/voltages & ID's for the athlon CPU's ,
& read this about the athlon 1800+ with an ID of AXDA1800DLT3C,
The 1800+ cpu I attempted to run in this particular board is marked asTBredA: If the website you're ordering from shows an order code of AXDA1800DLT3C, that's a Thoroughbred A. Update 3/28/03: It appears that from week 8 of 2003 and afterwards, there are 1.5V TBredBs with the same code
AXDA1800DLT3C , I bought it on the 22nd of January 2003, in which this
CPU of mine runs 1.5 volts according to the bios,, was bought in week 3
not 8 as the sight suggested...
Just thought Id run it by you...
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Well I far as I now the PCCHIPS M810LR fully supports XP AMD CPU´s from Rev 7.0 and above, not the earlier versions