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Hard drive must have cd as slave to enable bios recognition

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 5:49 pm
by eddie(Belfast)
I inherited a computer with the following.
Pc Chips M810LR-XP v7.1a
Bios AMI m8010l 686 7.5 ca59 9/13 1914( this is a paper sticker stuck on top of the Bios chip)
Athlon XP 1.1 cpu
1 gig Ram 133 168pin ecc
WD 80 gig UDMA100
Liteon Cd
Nvidia geoforce 128
XP pro sp2
The pc runs very well . The problem is as stated in the subject title bar.
The Bios will NOT accept/recognise the hard drive unless the cd drive is slaved to it. I have tried all the power (acpi, acpi/apm etc) in the Bios to no avail. Also the first Bios screen shows the correct hard drive and udma then the cd drive, however when I press the delete button and enter the Bios I press the f3 button and the hard drive is shown as pio4. I am assuming this is because the cd drive is holding the udma back? and Windows shows pio4 on the Device manager.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 6:53 pm
by Denniss
Check the Master/Slave/CS jumper, with WD you have to remove the jumper or set to spare/Single-Master if no other drive is connected to the same cable.
Also make sure you have your IDE cable connected in the corect way: Blue end to motherboard and black end to master drive.

thankyou

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 4:19 pm
by eddie(Belfast)
Never used WD before, so you live and learn. It required the Cs jumper. Again many thanks!!

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 5:40 pm
by cp
just for your information: CS is Cable Select. this means that the drive's address (master or slave) is determined by the position on the IDE cable. as i already stated in another post here, i don't see a (realworld) practical use for CS and i don't encourage anyone using CS anyway.

back to your problem:
http://wdc.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/wdc.cfg ... 1106764846

as you can see there are all settings you know from other manufacturers, too. additionally WD drives have a jumper setting you have to choose when you're using it as a single drive (e.g. no other drive on that IDE channel except the WD drive). so you might rather try the single drive setting than CS.

Cs setting

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 10:17 pm
by eddie(Belfast)
I am of the opinion this WD40bb drive is a bit strange. It will ONLY and I repeat ONLY run as a Primary Master if the CS setting is selected. Any other setting the Bios won't see it.
I now have the problem of getting it to run under DMA . The device manager shows the Primary Master running under PIO, yet the Secondary Master(CD drive) running under Ultra DMA 2.
I have hacked the registry as per Microsoft http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=817472
But to no avail. Still no UDMA.

Eureka I've got it!

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 9:16 am
by eddie(Belfast)
After delving into the Western Digital FAQ' on EIDE and UDMA settings, I read where they say, IF RUNNING ONLY ONE DRIVE ON THE CABLE REMOVE THE JUMPER . I did and immediately UDMA 5 came up in the Device Manager.

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 12:42 pm
by cp
well, that's why i posted a link to their site that shows the different jumper settings..i thought you were reading it.
anyway, nice to have the hdd up and running full speed.