Help Needed Bios Upgrade Possible? Fujitsu Siemens PC
Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 3:48 pm
Hi,
Wondered if anyone can assist, I bought the above pc brand new last May and when installing the bundled Fujitsu Siemens Drivers/Manual off the bundled Fujitsu CD a .pdf file is installed which says I have a PTM900 mobo (socket LGA775) which supports processors up to Intel Core 2 Duo.
The problem is, I have a Pentium 4 3.2 Mhz (with HT) (processor number = 641) and am hoping to upgrade to Core 2 Duo, but when checking the Bios options on boot up, it does not seem to offer the ability to change the CPU clock ratio(although screenshots of the bios in the afore mentioned manual show this clearly on the ‘Frequency & Voltage Control’ screenshot and are shown as changeable to 15X,16X and 17X.
The only visible options on this particular Bios screen on boot up are 'auto detect pci clock'(currently enabled) and 'spread spectrum' (currently enabled). The manual does say however that there is a ‘built in Switching Voltage Regulator to support CPU auto detection. That is, it has the ability to recognise the CPU voltage, clock, ratio and enables users to set up the CPU frequency from the’requency & Voltage Control’screen’.
I have flashed the bios previously with the most up to date flash available on the F-Siemens website, but the manual and actual bios screens still differ as described above.
Fujitsu Siemens helpdesk have been next to useless with any questions I have asked. When I asked them about this initially they said the Mobo would only support Pentium 4 chips (630 and 641) but when I referred them to the motherboard manual I received they could comment only :
‘From looking at the manual you provided it certainly does list it as supporting Core 2 Duo processors. We could not be specific in which particular Core 2 Duo processors it supports. Fujitsu Siemens Computers have only tested and validated the system board with the 2 processors as stated in our previous response.We can be no more specific.’
Am I currently able to upgrade the processor? Or will I definitely need some kind of Bios update to enable me to upgrade the processor?
I’ve also included information regarding the mainboard and bios usiing SiSoftware Sandra Lite XII.SP1. The PC is a FSiemens Scaleo Pi 1500 which came with Windows Vista Home Basic installed (which I’ve just updated to Service Pack 1).
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
System
Manufacturer : FUJITSU SIEMENS
Model : PTM900
Serial Number : DFDX005947
ID : 2D322C6A-DB115023-40000080-7BA39CCA
System Chassis
Manufacturer : OEM
Type : Desktop
Can be locked : No
Version : OEM
Serial Number : DFDX005947
Mainboard
Manufacturer : FUJITSU SIEMENS
Multi-Processor (MP) Support : 1 Processor(s)
MPS Version : 1.40
Model : PTM900
Version : PCB 1.X
Serial Number : C6E7205988
System BIOS : 05/23/2007-P4M900-8237A-6A7L8F06C-00
Chipset : VIA PT890
System Memory Controller
Location : Mainboard
Error Correction Capability : None
Number of Memory Slots : 2
Maximum Installable Memory : 1GB
Bank0/1 - A0 : DIMM DDR2 1GB
Bank2/3 - A1 : DIMM DDR2 1GB
Chipset 1
Model : FIC P4M900 Host Bridge
Revision : A1
Bus : Intel AGTL+
Front Side Bus Speed : 4x 200MHz (800MHz)
Maximum FSB Speed : 4x 200MHz (800MHz)
Width : 64-bit
HTT - Hyper-Threading Technology : No
I/O Queue Depth : 8 request(s)
Priority Master Queue Depth : 4 request(s)
Maximum Bus Bandwidth : 6.25GB/s
Chipset 1 Hub Interface
Type : V-Link
Version : 7.00
Multiplier : 2/1x
Speed : 1x 66MHz (66MHz)
I/O Queue Depth : 9 request(s)
Logical/Chipset 1 Memory Banks
Bank 0 : 512MB DDR2 4.0-3-3-12 CR2
Bank 1 : 512MB DDR2 4.0-3-3-12 CR2
Bank 2 : 512MB DDR2 4.0-3-3-12 CR2
Bank 3 : 512MB DDR2 4.0-3-3-12 CR2
Supported Memory Types : ECC DDR DDR2
Channels : 1
Bank Interleave : 4-way
Memory Bus Speed : 2x 267MHz (534MHz)
Maximum Memory Speed : 2x 333MHz (666MHz)
Multiplier : 8/6x
Width : 64-bit
Memory Controller in Processor : No
Refresh Rate : 21.44µs
Power Save Mode : No
Fixed Hole Present : No
Maximum Memory Bus Bandwidth : 4.17GB/s
Environment Monitor 1
Model : ITE IT8712F LPC
Version : 8.00
Mainboard Specific Support : No
Temperature Sensor(s)
Board Temperature : 7.00°C td
CPU Temperature : 30.00°C td
Auxiliary Temperature : 34.00°C
Cooling Device(s)
Auto Fan Speed Control : No
System Fan : 1048rpm
Voltage Sensor(s)
CPU DC Line : 1.26V
Aux DC Line : 1.79V
+3.3V DC Line : 3.31V
+5V DC Line : 4.97V
+12V DC Line : 11.54V
-12V DC Line : -12.03V
-5V DC Line : 0.78V
Standby DC Line : 5.03V
Battery DC Line : 3.12V
AGP Bus(es) on Hub 1
Version : 3.05
Maximum Data Transfer Rate : 4x
Multiplier : 1/2x
Fast-Writes Enabled : No
Isochronous Mode Enabled : No
Addressing Enabled : 32-bit
Aperture Size : 64MB
PCI Bus(es) on Hub 1
Version : 2.30
Number of Bridges : 4
PCI Bus 0 : PCI (33MHz)
PCI Bus 2 : PCIe (99MHz)
PCI Bus 3 : PCIe (99MHz)
PCI Bus 4 : PCI (33MHz)
PCI Bus 128 : PCI (33MHz)
Number of PCIe Lanes : 17
Multiplier : 1/6x
LPC Hub Controller 1
Model : FIC Standard PCI to ISA Bridge
Revision : A1
USB Controller 1
Model : FIC VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (All VIA Chipsets)
Revision : K1
Version : 1.10
Interface : UHCI
Channels : 2
Speed : 48MHz
Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps)
Legacy Emulation Enabled : No
USB Controller 2
Model : FIC VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (All VIA Chipsets)
Revision : K1
Version : 1.10
Interface : UHCI
Channels : 2
Speed : 48MHz
Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps)
Legacy Emulation Enabled : No
USB Controller 3
Model : FIC VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (All VIA Chipsets)
Revision : K1
Version : 1.10
Interface : UHCI
Channels : 2
Speed : 48MHz
Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps)
Legacy Emulation Enabled : No
USB Controller 4
Model : FIC VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (All VIA Chipsets)
Revision : K1
Version : 1.10
Interface : UHCI
Channels : 2
Speed : 48MHz
Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps)
Legacy Emulation Enabled : No
USB Controller 5
Model : FIC VT6202/12 USB 2.0 Enhanced Host Controller
Revision : I7
Version : 2.00
Specification : 1.00
Interface : EHCI
Channels : 8
Companion Controllers : 4
Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps) High (480Mbps)
Addressing Support : 32-bit
Legacy Emulation Enabled : No
Expansion Slot(s)
PCI-E 16X (1h) : PCIe 32-bit +5V PME Full-Length Used (VIA ProSavageDDR P4X600,Apollo KT400/A/600 CPU to AGP Bridge)
PCI-E 1X (2h) : PCIe 32-bit +5V PME Full-Length Available (VIA P4M900 PCI to PCI Bridge Controller)
Port Connector(s)
PRIMARY IDE : ATA
SECONDARY IDE : ATA
FDD : 8251 FIFO / Floppy Disk
COM1 : Serial Port 16450 / 9 Pin Dual Inline / DB-9 pin male
LPT1 : Parallel Port ECP/EPP / DB-25 pin female / DB-25 pin female
Keyboard : Keyboard / PS/2 / PS/2
USB0 : USB
Performance Tips
Notice 224 : SMBIOS/DMI information may be inaccurate.
Warning 2507 : Mainboard has too few memory slots. Upgrading the memory may be difficult or expensive.
Warning 2508 : All memory slots are full. Upgrading the memory may be difficult or expensive.
Tip 2546 : Large memory modules should be ECC/Parity.
Tip 2513 : AGP Bus is unused or AGP card not fully AGP compatible.
Tip 2525 : Current AGP data rate not optimal.
Tip 2536 : System has no SMBus/i2c/BMB bus support.
Tip 2 : Double-click tip or press Enter while a tip is selected for more information about the tip.
SiSoftware Sandra
General Information
Manufacturer : Phoenix Technologies, LTD
Version : 255.255
Date of Manufacture : 23 May 2007
Plug & Play Version : 1.00
SMBIOS/DMI Version : 2.40
(EE)PROM Size : 512kB
General Capabilities
Can be Updated/Flashed : Yes
Can be Shadowed : Yes
Is Socketed : Yes
Supports Plug & Play : Yes
Supports ESCD : No
Supports Enhanced Disk Drive : Yes
NEC PC-98 Spec Compatible : No
Power Management Features
Supports APM : Yes
Supports ACPI : Yes
Supports Smart Battery : No
Boot Features
Supports Selective Booting : Yes
Supports CD/DVD Boot : Yes
Supports PCMCIA/CardBus Boot : No
Supports LS-120 Boot : No
Supports ZIP Boot : No
Supports i2o Boot : No
Supports FireWire/1394 Boot : No
Supports BIOS Boot Block : Yes
Supports Interactive Network Boot : No
Performance Tips
Notice 224 : SMBIOS/DMI information may be inaccurate.
Tip 212 : BIOS can be shadowed so check whether it is.
Tip 211 : BIOS is flash-able and socketed so it can be upgraded when needed.
Tip 2 : Double-click tip or press Enter while a tip is selected for more information about the tip.
Wondered if anyone can assist, I bought the above pc brand new last May and when installing the bundled Fujitsu Siemens Drivers/Manual off the bundled Fujitsu CD a .pdf file is installed which says I have a PTM900 mobo (socket LGA775) which supports processors up to Intel Core 2 Duo.
The problem is, I have a Pentium 4 3.2 Mhz (with HT) (processor number = 641) and am hoping to upgrade to Core 2 Duo, but when checking the Bios options on boot up, it does not seem to offer the ability to change the CPU clock ratio(although screenshots of the bios in the afore mentioned manual show this clearly on the ‘Frequency & Voltage Control’ screenshot and are shown as changeable to 15X,16X and 17X.
The only visible options on this particular Bios screen on boot up are 'auto detect pci clock'(currently enabled) and 'spread spectrum' (currently enabled). The manual does say however that there is a ‘built in Switching Voltage Regulator to support CPU auto detection. That is, it has the ability to recognise the CPU voltage, clock, ratio and enables users to set up the CPU frequency from the’requency & Voltage Control’screen’.
I have flashed the bios previously with the most up to date flash available on the F-Siemens website, but the manual and actual bios screens still differ as described above.
Fujitsu Siemens helpdesk have been next to useless with any questions I have asked. When I asked them about this initially they said the Mobo would only support Pentium 4 chips (630 and 641) but when I referred them to the motherboard manual I received they could comment only :
‘From looking at the manual you provided it certainly does list it as supporting Core 2 Duo processors. We could not be specific in which particular Core 2 Duo processors it supports. Fujitsu Siemens Computers have only tested and validated the system board with the 2 processors as stated in our previous response.We can be no more specific.’
Am I currently able to upgrade the processor? Or will I definitely need some kind of Bios update to enable me to upgrade the processor?
I’ve also included information regarding the mainboard and bios usiing SiSoftware Sandra Lite XII.SP1. The PC is a FSiemens Scaleo Pi 1500 which came with Windows Vista Home Basic installed (which I’ve just updated to Service Pack 1).
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
System
Manufacturer : FUJITSU SIEMENS
Model : PTM900
Serial Number : DFDX005947
ID : 2D322C6A-DB115023-40000080-7BA39CCA
System Chassis
Manufacturer : OEM
Type : Desktop
Can be locked : No
Version : OEM
Serial Number : DFDX005947
Mainboard
Manufacturer : FUJITSU SIEMENS
Multi-Processor (MP) Support : 1 Processor(s)
MPS Version : 1.40
Model : PTM900
Version : PCB 1.X
Serial Number : C6E7205988
System BIOS : 05/23/2007-P4M900-8237A-6A7L8F06C-00
Chipset : VIA PT890
System Memory Controller
Location : Mainboard
Error Correction Capability : None
Number of Memory Slots : 2
Maximum Installable Memory : 1GB
Bank0/1 - A0 : DIMM DDR2 1GB
Bank2/3 - A1 : DIMM DDR2 1GB
Chipset 1
Model : FIC P4M900 Host Bridge
Revision : A1
Bus : Intel AGTL+
Front Side Bus Speed : 4x 200MHz (800MHz)
Maximum FSB Speed : 4x 200MHz (800MHz)
Width : 64-bit
HTT - Hyper-Threading Technology : No
I/O Queue Depth : 8 request(s)
Priority Master Queue Depth : 4 request(s)
Maximum Bus Bandwidth : 6.25GB/s
Chipset 1 Hub Interface
Type : V-Link
Version : 7.00
Multiplier : 2/1x
Speed : 1x 66MHz (66MHz)
I/O Queue Depth : 9 request(s)
Logical/Chipset 1 Memory Banks
Bank 0 : 512MB DDR2 4.0-3-3-12 CR2
Bank 1 : 512MB DDR2 4.0-3-3-12 CR2
Bank 2 : 512MB DDR2 4.0-3-3-12 CR2
Bank 3 : 512MB DDR2 4.0-3-3-12 CR2
Supported Memory Types : ECC DDR DDR2
Channels : 1
Bank Interleave : 4-way
Memory Bus Speed : 2x 267MHz (534MHz)
Maximum Memory Speed : 2x 333MHz (666MHz)
Multiplier : 8/6x
Width : 64-bit
Memory Controller in Processor : No
Refresh Rate : 21.44µs
Power Save Mode : No
Fixed Hole Present : No
Maximum Memory Bus Bandwidth : 4.17GB/s
Environment Monitor 1
Model : ITE IT8712F LPC
Version : 8.00
Mainboard Specific Support : No
Temperature Sensor(s)
Board Temperature : 7.00°C td
CPU Temperature : 30.00°C td
Auxiliary Temperature : 34.00°C
Cooling Device(s)
Auto Fan Speed Control : No
System Fan : 1048rpm
Voltage Sensor(s)
CPU DC Line : 1.26V
Aux DC Line : 1.79V
+3.3V DC Line : 3.31V
+5V DC Line : 4.97V
+12V DC Line : 11.54V
-12V DC Line : -12.03V
-5V DC Line : 0.78V
Standby DC Line : 5.03V
Battery DC Line : 3.12V
AGP Bus(es) on Hub 1
Version : 3.05
Maximum Data Transfer Rate : 4x
Multiplier : 1/2x
Fast-Writes Enabled : No
Isochronous Mode Enabled : No
Addressing Enabled : 32-bit
Aperture Size : 64MB
PCI Bus(es) on Hub 1
Version : 2.30
Number of Bridges : 4
PCI Bus 0 : PCI (33MHz)
PCI Bus 2 : PCIe (99MHz)
PCI Bus 3 : PCIe (99MHz)
PCI Bus 4 : PCI (33MHz)
PCI Bus 128 : PCI (33MHz)
Number of PCIe Lanes : 17
Multiplier : 1/6x
LPC Hub Controller 1
Model : FIC Standard PCI to ISA Bridge
Revision : A1
USB Controller 1
Model : FIC VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (All VIA Chipsets)
Revision : K1
Version : 1.10
Interface : UHCI
Channels : 2
Speed : 48MHz
Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps)
Legacy Emulation Enabled : No
USB Controller 2
Model : FIC VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (All VIA Chipsets)
Revision : K1
Version : 1.10
Interface : UHCI
Channels : 2
Speed : 48MHz
Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps)
Legacy Emulation Enabled : No
USB Controller 3
Model : FIC VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (All VIA Chipsets)
Revision : K1
Version : 1.10
Interface : UHCI
Channels : 2
Speed : 48MHz
Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps)
Legacy Emulation Enabled : No
USB Controller 4
Model : FIC VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (All VIA Chipsets)
Revision : K1
Version : 1.10
Interface : UHCI
Channels : 2
Speed : 48MHz
Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps)
Legacy Emulation Enabled : No
USB Controller 5
Model : FIC VT6202/12 USB 2.0 Enhanced Host Controller
Revision : I7
Version : 2.00
Specification : 1.00
Interface : EHCI
Channels : 8
Companion Controllers : 4
Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps) High (480Mbps)
Addressing Support : 32-bit
Legacy Emulation Enabled : No
Expansion Slot(s)
PCI-E 16X (1h) : PCIe 32-bit +5V PME Full-Length Used (VIA ProSavageDDR P4X600,Apollo KT400/A/600 CPU to AGP Bridge)
PCI-E 1X (2h) : PCIe 32-bit +5V PME Full-Length Available (VIA P4M900 PCI to PCI Bridge Controller)
Port Connector(s)
PRIMARY IDE : ATA
SECONDARY IDE : ATA
FDD : 8251 FIFO / Floppy Disk
COM1 : Serial Port 16450 / 9 Pin Dual Inline / DB-9 pin male
LPT1 : Parallel Port ECP/EPP / DB-25 pin female / DB-25 pin female
Keyboard : Keyboard / PS/2 / PS/2
USB0 : USB
Performance Tips
Notice 224 : SMBIOS/DMI information may be inaccurate.
Warning 2507 : Mainboard has too few memory slots. Upgrading the memory may be difficult or expensive.
Warning 2508 : All memory slots are full. Upgrading the memory may be difficult or expensive.
Tip 2546 : Large memory modules should be ECC/Parity.
Tip 2513 : AGP Bus is unused or AGP card not fully AGP compatible.
Tip 2525 : Current AGP data rate not optimal.
Tip 2536 : System has no SMBus/i2c/BMB bus support.
Tip 2 : Double-click tip or press Enter while a tip is selected for more information about the tip.
SiSoftware Sandra
General Information
Manufacturer : Phoenix Technologies, LTD
Version : 255.255
Date of Manufacture : 23 May 2007
Plug & Play Version : 1.00
SMBIOS/DMI Version : 2.40
(EE)PROM Size : 512kB
General Capabilities
Can be Updated/Flashed : Yes
Can be Shadowed : Yes
Is Socketed : Yes
Supports Plug & Play : Yes
Supports ESCD : No
Supports Enhanced Disk Drive : Yes
NEC PC-98 Spec Compatible : No
Power Management Features
Supports APM : Yes
Supports ACPI : Yes
Supports Smart Battery : No
Boot Features
Supports Selective Booting : Yes
Supports CD/DVD Boot : Yes
Supports PCMCIA/CardBus Boot : No
Supports LS-120 Boot : No
Supports ZIP Boot : No
Supports i2o Boot : No
Supports FireWire/1394 Boot : No
Supports BIOS Boot Block : Yes
Supports Interactive Network Boot : No
Performance Tips
Notice 224 : SMBIOS/DMI information may be inaccurate.
Tip 212 : BIOS can be shadowed so check whether it is.
Tip 211 : BIOS is flash-able and socketed so it can be upgraded when needed.
Tip 2 : Double-click tip or press Enter while a tip is selected for more information about the tip.