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New ram =(

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 2:52 am
by Raa
I recently decided to upgrade my old pc133 ram to a full gig of pc2100.
I removed the pc133 and added the pc2100 after turning it on the it didnt work, the power went on but nothing would load.


I use,

American Trends Inc.
Model K7S5A


Is there anything that i can do?

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 3:23 am
by Denniss
One stick of one gig or two of 512MB each ?
One gig should not work but two 512 without problems. Please test each stick individually.
Sometime, while moving from SDR-SDRAM to DDR-SDRAM a clear CMOS was needed on this board.

Question : Why did you buy PC-2100 RAM but not PC-3200 ? (Fully backwards compatabile and faster timings than PC-2100)

re

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 12:49 pm
by Raa
I bought 512x2. I tried your advice by only installing one 512 stick after removing the old pc133 but still had no luck, the pc would not boot up.



Answer: Need vs Quality vs Price

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 2:35 am
by Denniss
Bios version ?
Old versions sometimes had problems wich SDR-DDR changeovers.
The K7S5A does not like NoNameRAM, especially in older Bios versions.

Does it still work with PC-133 ?
What kind of RAM did you buy ?
-> Manufacturer/chips used

re

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 7:32 am
by Raa
The pc133 does still work, below i posted a cpu-z report, hopfully it has everything you need to know.

The ram I bought:
Simple tech pc2100 ddr 512mb(x2) ecc


CPU-Z Report
CPU-Z version 1.31.

CPU(s)
Number of CPUs 1
Name AMD Athlon XP
Code Name Palomino
Specification AMD Athlon(tm) Processor
Family / Model / Stepping 6 6 2
Extended Family / Model 7 6
Package Socket A
Core Stepping A5
Technology 0.18 µ
Supported Instructions Sets MMX, Extended MMX, 3DNow!, Extended 3DNow!, SSE
CPU Clock Speed 1244.7 MHz
Clock multiplier x 12.5
Front Side Bus Frequency 99.6 MHz
Bus Speed 199.2 MHz
L1 Data Cache 64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
L1 Instruction Cache 64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
L2 Cache 256 KBytes, 16-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
L2 Speed 1244.7 MHz (Full)
L2 Location On Chip
L2 Data Prefetch Logic yes
L2 Bus Width 64 bits

Mainboard and chipset
Motherboard manufacturer ECS
Motherboard model K7S5A,
BIOS vendor American Megatrends Inc.
BIOS revision 07.00T
BIOS release date 04/02/01
Chipset SiS 735 rev. 01
Southbridge SiS ID0008 rev. 00
Sensor chip ITE 0
Graphic Interface AGP
AGP Status enabled, rev. 2.0
AGP Data Transfer Rate 4x
AGP Max Rate 4x
AGP Side Band Addressing supported, not enabled
AGP Aperture Size 64 MBytes

Memory
DRAM Type SDRAM
DRAM Size 512 MBytes
CAS# Latency 3.0 clocks
RAS# to CAS# 3 clocks
RAS# Precharge 4 clocks
Cycle Time (TRAS) 6 clocks
Bank Cycle Time (TRC) 10 clocks
# of memory modules 2
Module 0 Infineon SDRAM PC133 - 256 MBytes
Module 1 Infineon SDRAM PC133 - 256 MBytes

Software
Windows version Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
DirectX version 9.0c

Re: re

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 7:53 pm
by KURIAKI
Raa wrote:Motherboard manufacturer ECS
Motherboard model K7S5A,
BIOS vendor American Megatrends Inc.
BIOS revision 07.00T
BIOS release date 04/02/01
Very old BIOS version:
http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWeb/Downloads/ ... 35&LanID=0

re

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 11:29 pm
by Raa
I downloaded the file from the link you sent me but after extraing it I don't know what to do. I did a small search an couldn't find what I was looking for.

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 11:36 pm
by Denniss
ECC is the problem here - chipset does not work with ECC (server RAM)

Return memory to your dealer, get dtandard PC-2100, PC-2700 or, better, PC-3200.

BTW The Bios date is not Bios version or release date, it's the Ami Bios Core date (Bios kernel). Every ECs bios version should display a small string like K7S5A Bios 030326 or similar.

Everest Home should be able to display the ECS Bios release version.

Re: re

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 11:48 pm
by PGM
Raa wrote:The pc133 does still work, below i posted a cpu-z report, hopfully it has everything you need to know.

The ram I bought:
Simple tech pc2100 ddr 512mb(x2) ecc


CPU-Z Report
CPU-Z version 1.31.

CPU(s)
Number of CPUs 1
Name AMD Athlon XP
Code Name Palomino
Specification AMD Athlon(tm) Processor
Family / Model / Stepping 6 6 2
Extended Family / Model 7 6
Package Socket A
Core Stepping A5
Technology 0.18 µ
Supported Instructions Sets MMX, Extended MMX, 3DNow!, Extended 3DNow!, SSE
CPU Clock Speed 1244.7 MHz
Clock multiplier x 12.5
Front Side Bus Frequency 99.6 MHz
Bus Speed 199.2 MHz
L1 Data Cache 64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
L1 Instruction Cache 64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
L2 Cache 256 KBytes, 16-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
L2 Speed 1244.7 MHz (Full)
L2 Location On Chip
L2 Data Prefetch Logic yes
L2 Bus Width 64 bits

Mainboard and chipset
Motherboard manufacturer ECS
Motherboard model K7S5A,
BIOS vendor American Megatrends Inc.
BIOS revision 07.00T
BIOS release date 04/02/01
Chipset SiS 735 rev. 01
Southbridge SiS ID0008 rev. 00
Sensor chip ITE 0
Graphic Interface AGP
AGP Status enabled, rev. 2.0
AGP Data Transfer Rate 4x
AGP Max Rate 4x
AGP Side Band Addressing supported, not enabled
AGP Aperture Size 64 MBytes

Memory
DRAM Type SDRAM
DRAM Size 512 MBytes
CAS# Latency 3.0 clocks
RAS# to CAS# 3 clocks
RAS# Precharge 4 clocks
Cycle Time (TRAS) 6 clocks
Bank Cycle Time (TRC) 10 clocks
# of memory modules 2
Module 0 Infineon SDRAM PC133 - 256 MBytes
Module 1 Infineon SDRAM PC133 - 256 MBytes

Software
Windows version Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
DirectX version 9.0c
Hey, your Palomino 2000+ is underclocked, you should use 133x2 FSB, not 100x2 FSB. In BIOS, there is a menu called CPU PnP Setup, you must set 133/133.