failing to update bios

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nev4
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Hello,

I tried to update AWARD K7VZA motherboard.

What i get is:

"BIOS ROM checksum error"

i have floppy with Flash award awd882.exe (flash utility), vza37.bin (bios), with MS-DOS startup

As i insert floppy i got folowing:

A:\>mode con codepage prepare=((775) ega3.cpi)
MODE prepare code page function completed
A:\>mode con codepage select=775
MODE select code page function completed
A:\>keyb us,,keyboard.sys
Code requested (775) is not valid for given keyboard code

it's something wrong with keyboard???

then i write:

"A:\>awd882a.exe vza37.bin"

i enter into AwardBIOS Flash Utility program which request "File Name to Program :", by default, according to my parameter it's vza37.bin, all i have to do is to press Y on my keyboard, (i got flashing message "Please input File Name !") but my keyboard doesn't respond - all lights(Num Lk) stays as it was before starting utility, i can't turn it off if it was on and vice versa.

So i have stucked, can anyone help me get out of this loop - all i can do know just start floppy, why doesn't keyboard respond? (i have tried two keyboards)
nev4
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Problem solved:

had to add parameters /py /sn /r

new problem has arrived:
(3.7 bios)
Main processor: Unknown processor type 1.050Mhz

as i had before (1.0 bios)
Main processor: AMD Athlon 1.050Mhz (100x10.5)

I thought it's 1.4Mhz Duron as it's title on processor????
(maybe it's Athlon 1400C 1400 MHz 256 KiB 266 MT/s x10.5???)

But the main problem that with this processor windows crashes - stop responding - screen freezes, all devices freezes, i think processor stops processing instructions. What is this problem about? (650Mhz Duron works just fine)
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What revision is your K7VZA ?

Rev 1.x is VIA KT-133 with 686A or 686B Southbridge supporting 100 MHz FSB and 133 MHz memory. This revision should not be compatible to Duron above 1.3 GHz and newer Athlon XP with T-Bred or newer cores. Rev 1.x is also limited to 1.x Bios although 3.x Bios might work.

Rev 3.x is VIA KT-133A with 686B Southbridge supporting 133 MHZ for both FSBand memory. Rev 3.x should be fully compatible with Durons up to 1.3GHzand Athlon up to XP 2600+ (133 MHz FSB), probably proper Bios support is limited to T-Breds axcluding Thorton cores. Durons above 1.3GHz should work but may lack proper Bios support to be identified as Durons, they should work because they are AthlonXP with soem L2-Cache disabled.
nev4
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How to determine my rev?
(edit: have found on motherboard surface that's rev 1.0)

Documentation says that mobo has a socket 462 to accomodate AMD Athlon (K7) support FSB speeds up 200Mhz, but in documentation the jumpers are from JP1 to JP7 - no jumpers to change FSB from 100Mhz to 133Mhz.


In windows (crystalCPUID) it shows that processor is AMD Duron:
QPC Current Original
Internal Clock 1051 1400
System Clock 100 133
System Bus 200 266.67
Multiplier 10.50 10.50
Over Clock -24.87% DDR

is any solution to make it work normally? This processor runs on Windows until it gets something like 3DMark, on idle it runs very long.

so duron 1300 is compatible with rev 1.0 and duron 1400 isn't?

where could i find more information?

1.1g 12/07/00 Award® BIOS.
1. Solve USB scanner can't run imagin program issue
2. Patch FSB 133 CPU show "C" for above 1GHz only
3. Solve when disable onchip sound item can't shut down by Win Me

what do the second refers to?
edwin
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Your board can handle only 100MHz FSB per the description. Only a 3.x board can support 133MHz FSB.
edwin/evasive

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System error, strike any user to continue...
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Duron 1300 and 1400 sounds like they are the very same CPU but they aren't. The 1300 is based on the AthlonXP Palomino core manufactured in 0.18µ and the 1400 is based on the T-Bred core AthlonXP manufactured in 0.13µ with somewhat different power requirements.

Most of KT-133 Board have problems operating these newer CPU, even lots of never KT-133A board were not able to use those newer CPU.

Try to find an Athlon Thunderbird, max supported CPU should be the Thunderbird 1400B with 100 MHz FSB (AKA FSB200). But it might be easier to get a new board/CPU combo.
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Those marketing values only cause confusion and in addition they are totally wrong. As Denniss already stated 100MHz FSB is FSB200 (no MHz here). The reason for marketing to double the MHz value is the following: there are bus transfers on the rising and on the falling edge of the clock signal (called Double Data Rate - DDR) while on former busses there where only transfers on the rising edge (called Single Data Rate - SDR). Thus they just doubled the number. But Hz only describes how many alternations on a signal occur. One alternation is from 0 to 1 and back to 0. So if you run a 100MHz bus it doesn't matter how many times data is/can be transmitted on which edges: the number of alternations keeps the same. A 100MHz bus is a 100MHz bus and always will be.
To make it even worse Intel invented Quadruple Data Rate (QDR) where they transfer 2x on the rising edge and 2x on the falling edge. Now to distinguish between (worthless) marketing values and real world values they introduced the FSB+Number scheme. See the table and you'll figure out. Unfortunately not every manufacturer cared about it causing a massive mess. Here's a small table which applies to all kinds of busses, CPU and RAM:

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CLOCK   FSB RATING
SDR
 66MHz  FSB  66
100MHz  FSB 100
133MHz  FSB 133

DDR(2)
100MHz  FSB 200
133MHz  FSB 266
166MHz  FSB 333
200MHz  FSB 400
266MHz  FSB 533
333MHz  FSB 667
400MHz  FSB 800

QDR
100MHz  FSB 400
133MHz  FSB 533
166MHz  FSB 667
200MHz  FSB 800
266MHz  FSB1066
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