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Hot-swapping and Boot-Block flash & Boot block flash and floppy support
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dreumes69
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Hello,

I have a msi ms-6380 motherboard.
I have loaded a wrong bios and now my pc will not start up
I hear the pc start up but nothing will happen and my screen stays black.I have read about all kind of options how to solve this.

I have a ami bios and i tried to flash the bios with a floppy disk.
But my pc does not start up from floppy disk.
I do not have any ISA slots so i can't connect my floppy disk to a ISA card.

How can i solve my problem?

Thnxs allot.
lucske74
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Your MSI 6380 , wich bios Ami or Award !
For the best results you must have a second MSI 6380 with the same bios.
Or you can try it with another meanbord with an Award or AMI ?
But I am not shure of this works fine !
But you must have a floppy drive , and the good bios .
dreumes69
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Thnxs for al you help.

But my motherboard has chrashed also so nothing will work then.

Greetz,

Desiree
lucske74
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Here you find the exact bios that you need.http://www.msicomputer.com/support/bios_result.asp
But like a say you must the same meanbord ore a meanbord with the same chipset and with a Amibios for hotflash.
ajzchips
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The board doesn't need to be similar in chipset or in BIOS-type.
lucske74
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Maybe with Uniflash , but not as you work with Awardflash.
I tried this with 6340 ( see my topic)and 6533 I do the procedure in two test .
One I start with a bootfloppy in the working meanbord(6533) , then I take the good biosrom out is socket.
And place the other(bad , I don't know)biosrom of my6340 in the socket of my 6533 . then I take the floppy with the awardflash and the good bios.
Then I saw on the screen that I read the chipset (There stays chipset SiS792 what right is for that meanbord , but the bios that I will Flash is for the chipset K133.
Then the program terminated.
So I think with the award biosflash You must the same chipset to have to do this !!.
I remove the bioses and my good working meanbord(6533) works fine .
Luckly there's no damaged on the good board.For the same price Have I two boards dead .
PeteV
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Hi!

During the last weeks I have been just on the same spot as you are now.

I'm still working on this, but in the meanwhile, if it helps, I can tell,
that hot-swapping, flashing etc. do work fine only between mobos'
with just the same (or somehow relative ...) type of PCI chipset,
for ex. Intel 82437FX,HX,TX,VX, same type on both, but note,
the AB,EB,SB etc. chipsets do not affect to this , they are another
series and for another purpose.

I may come back in few days/weeks with some more detailed findings
on this subject.


Best regards,

Pete V.
M.Sc.
Helsinki, Finland
PeteV
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Hi!

On my previous reply, I wasn't precise enough, sorry.

Member ajzchips do have right, when hot-swapping and flashing
a BIOS chip on another mobo, the chipset or the BIOS chip details
of that mobo doesn't matter, just to ensure that the BIOS chip, which
is intended to and flashed for the other mobo, is the right type and
voltage suitable for the other one, and that the flashing will be done
on that right voltage. (On some cases I have been experiencing
even, that the voltage do not either have too much meaning, here
or there, but to be sure, rather concern the voltages, too).

But, vice versa, when trying to wake-up a dead mobo with a BIOS
from another mobo, the awaking BIOS should include a code intended
for the same (or somehow related) chipset type, otherwise the mobo
will not get up. And still, for the best result, it should also include the
right code for the MultiIO chip, otherwise the floppy drive, which may
be needed for the flashing, do not wake-up. But, this can be worked
round copying the .bin and flash.exe file to the hard disk, and when
the mobo is got up, flashing it's new BIOS chip from there.

As examples, I do have chipsets Intel 82437FX,HX,TX,VX, some BIOS'es
may also cross-work on these but some not, and OPTiViper 82C557M.
The MultiIO chips are ALi M5113, SMC FDC37C665GT,669QF, Winbond
83877F,787IF, ITE IT8679F-A a.s.o.

I hope this will help you a little bit. I'll come back later on with some
more findings, maybe e.g. on the voltage regulation/measuring,
broken capacitor, and other that type of matters ...


Best regards,

Pete V.
lucske74
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Hello Pete,

There are the same biosmanufacture " Winbond" nr W49F002UP12B.
PLCC type 32pins 5volt.

So I tried it again with the Awardflasch , but It read the chipset of the good working motherboard , and not the code in the (flashing biosrom with chipset K133) , so I can only save the old bios to the diskette before I will flash . When I will flash the program says "it's not the same system "
the program terminated .
So I stopped with this and waiting on other results.
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